Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: jimfig@attctc.dallas.tx.us (Jim Fiegenschue) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Don't understand Message-ID: Date: 21 Dec 89 07:39:50 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: The Unix(R) Connection, Dallas, Texas Lines: 28 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu Since it is nearly Christmas and lots of discussion abounds about God sending his only begotten Son to save us by dying for our sins and washing us clean with his blood, I just wanted to ask some of you why this makes any sense and why one should give this God any credit for setting up such a silly system in the first place. We are talking about THE GOD, aren't we? One that created the entire universe and therefore made up all the rules, right? So why did He set up such silly rules as to make it necessary to make a Son through a virgin pure woman right before she gets married and then have this Son agree to die in order to save us from ourselves? And why should we give Jesus so much credit for agreeing to die? He is God too, right? If anyone knows that life is eternal it should be the God that made it so in the first place, right? So why get all excited about a God agreeing to die when it is His idea to do so in the first place? ---- I'm sure you get my drift by now. I just don't see this at all! It seems to me that people just have an incredible amount of guilt and very low self esteem and get excited thinking that a God would actually die for them to show how much He loves them. Personally I find the entire idea rather repugnant and disgusting and would much prefer that this nice God didn't die and we'd all just be nice to each other anyhow. Please don't flame me! I'm seriously curious how one thinks this way. From a moral agnostic/atheist: Meg Fiegenschue attctc.Dallas.TX.US!jimfig I'd appreciate postings rather than mailings. Thanks! Happy Solstice! and Merry Merry...