Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!winchester!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Integer/Multiply/Divide on Sparc Message-ID: <34058@mips.mips.COM> Date: 3 Jan 90 02:29:29 GMT References: <158@csinc.UUCP> <787@stat.fsu.edu> <42701@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <788@stat.fsu.edu> <42737@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> <5842@ncar.ucar.edu> Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 30 In article <5842@ncar.ucar.edu> thor@stout.UCAR.EDU (Rich Neitzel) writes: > >With all the talk about this subject I do not recall seeing any benchmarking >of a sparc or any other system for that matter. The following table lists times >generated by the Plum-Hall benchmark routines. (They were posted a while back >to comp.misc.sources). There are three things that really stand out to my Could somebody post the critical parts of this again so we can look at it? Although I have high respect for Plum-Hall in general, I'm always nervous about micro-level benchmarks. Now, I hate to have to defend SPARC :-), but I must: realistic integer benchmarks that I know [like the SPEC ones] simply don't correlate with the results claimed below, at least not very much. The RISC machines are noticably faster on actual integer programs.... > 2> In general, there is little difference between the RISC and > CISC machines. For example the 68030 9000/370, 9000/835 and the SS1 > all have very close timings. In fact, except for call+ret and > floating point, the 68030 has better timing. Even among the "1st" > generation machines the 68020 based 3/260 beats the 4/260 in the > same areas. Again, this is why it would be nice to post the benchmark; one must always be very careful of micro-level benchmarks: I just don't believe that one can generalize from these results into thinking that a 33Mhz 68030 has faster integer performance overall than the RISCs... -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086