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From: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.periphs
Subject: Re: <5933@timbuk.cray.com>
Message-ID: <1617@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
Date: 22 Dec 89 14:51:54 GMT
References: <5933@timbuk.cray.com> <9700013@adaptex>
Reply-To: amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michielsen)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
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In article <9700013@adaptex> skipl@adaptex.UUCP writes:
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>Matt,
>
>This sounds like an old product from Rodime. The original Rodime box
>actually...
>
>This device plugs directly into the SCSI port of the Mac...
>
>Rodime had software for the unit which allowed it...
>

I missed the start of this but will stick my 2 cents in anyway.
I have 'managed' (for lack of a less offensive term), several old
mac systems which have had drives added, which either came complete from
rodime else used rodime drives.  While this is meant NOT to be a kick to
rodime but....
   The software mentioned above I have found the following to be true.
1. The drives would work without it WITH OLD OLD OLD VERIONS of the system.
2. The software supplied is compatible only up to like system version 4.2 or 5
   or somthing like that.  AFTER that, it may or may not work, work well, or
   work at all.  I think partly based on apple rom version.  It GENERALLY
   would read/write but wouldn't boot.
3. I contacted Rodime & other companies about this problem & basically got the
   following reply.
   a. Yes we know.
   b. It's all apples fault.
   c. That's a really old product, we don't support that anymore.
   d. We have no plans on supplying a new driver set for the system because.
      1. The system versions are coming our faster than we can handle it.
      2. Apple is changing the rules in mid stream it's all their fault.
      3. That's a really old product anyway.
      4. We (& Even Apple) recommend that those old 128's, 512's, 512e's....
         are not recommended to run system verions past (like) 4 anyway.
         A. So you can't share laser printers anymore because of the version
            differences. We sold you a disk drive, & It's apple's fault....
   e. That product predated the (pick one) Plus, Se, II, IIi, IIc, IIcx,....
      we never promised it would work that model anyway.

Luckily, the secretaries dropped the last one a couple of weeks ago & they are
all dead here now.  If this sounds like the problem your having with it.
I suspect it's hopeless to make it a bootable disk & run the newer systems.

But I do know, that because of this I will never buy another rodime product
willingly.  No matter whose fault it's supposed to be.......

AL