Xref: utzoo comp.protocols.tcp-ip:9708 comp.org.usenix:1245 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!ficc!peter From: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.org.usenix Subject: Re: Networks considered harmful/Re: USENIX board studies UUCP Message-ID: <7403@ficc.uu.net> Date: 22 Dec 89 19:12:17 GMT References: <8912200236.AA25652@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> <7375@ficc.uu.net> <106@van-bc.UUCP> <7387@ficc.uu.net> <110@van-bc.UUCP> Reply-To: peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) Organization: Xenix Support, FICC Lines: 39 In article <110@van-bc.UUCP> sl@van-bc.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) writes: > I see, anyone with a $100 dollar modem can use any of these networks *right* > now for just the cost of the phone call. Right. Your sarcasm is noted. No, of course you can't. The whole point here is to change things so you can send mail to someone with no more than a phone number. But if this requires new hardware anyway, it should at least be cheap hardware. > I've seen add's (maybe bogus, who knows) for $195 Fax Board plus software > for an IBM PC. Well ok that's more than $100. But certainly less than your > complete pc (generic) plus 1200 bps modem. You can buy an Atari 800 for as little as $70. Commodore-64s are similarly priced. They're quite powerful enough to support this application. That gives you $130 for your modem. 1200 baud modems start under $100. There are millions of these cheap machines out there. Certainly more than FAXes. PLUS all the IBMs and IBM clones, many of which already have modems. > What you seem to be proposing here is YAEFSMS (Yet Another From Scratch EMail > Standard). You mean YAFSEM? No, I'm proposing a slight modification to UUCP. When someone has a FAX machine your proposal doesn't give me any additional capability. If they have an email machine then who cares whether it's FAX compatible or not. And as for the transfer speeds, my proposal has been demonstrated at up to 18,000 baud using Telebit Trailblazers. That's about twice as fast as FAX. -- `-_-' Peter da Silva. +1 713 274 5180. . 'U` Also or . "It was just dumb luck that Unix managed to break through the Stupidity Barrier and become popular in spite of its inherent elegance." -- gavin@krypton.sgi.com