Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!Chris_F_Chiesa From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Copper Demos... Message-ID: <25313@cup.portal.com> Date: 23 Dec 89 23:30:08 GMT References: <5483@nigel.udel.EDU> <24874@cup.portal.com> <5697@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <13480@s.ms.uky.edu> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 77 Whew! The replies to my article about a demo... >This reminds me of a demo I'm trying to find.... > >The demo starts out sorta like the description above, EXCEPT that after a >few minutes the flying reflective balls transform into little wing-flapping >"demons!" There's also a "control menu" that nobody at the store could get >into on purpose, but which two people (and me, once!) got into by accident! > >If anybody knows where I could find this, or even what it's called, I'd >love to hear it. E-mail please, as I don't get in here (news) very often. ... have been both NUMEROUS and INFORMATIVE! Thanks to all who responded (listed at end); here's a summary. First, WHICH demo are we talking about? People seem to have several different names for it: "DOCdemo" (due to "the letters D O C at the top of the screen," that being the name or initials of the hacker group that created it), "Hell Demo", "Crusade". It turns out to have been uploaded long ago to Portal by the name "Crusade," so that's the one I'M going to know it by... :-) Second: features. Thyss@cup.portal.com pointed out that there are "moving bars that go with the music" at the top of the screen -- I don't remember these, but then, I don't remember the D O C up there either. (So much for graphics demos as a means of gaining "name recognition!" :-) ) Todd Olson reported that it was "designed to run on a PAL machine," but I first saw it on an NTSC machine and it seemed to be doing just fine... Third, several people wrote to ask "if you find it, can you send me a copy?" Well, thanks to Thyss@cup.portal.com, I was able to locate it in a few minutes, right here in Portal's Amiga SIG file area, but I can't do UUencode or other niceties here on Portal so would have to download, probably ZOO, UUencode, and re-upload, to get it out. Check your local Amiga BBSes first, and if you STILL can't find it, THEN write me again! Fourth, that mystical Control Panel! A couple of people were excited to learn of it for the first time; several people remembered it but asked me how to get into it, and ludde@nada.kth.se (Erik Lundevall) told me that "The control mode is enabled after the scrolltext has been shown, it takes about ten minutes to reach that stage." Thanks, Erik, but do *I* have to do any- thing to get it to appear, or does it come up by itself? I remember at the store when I first saw it, I hit a few keys and POOF! there it was. Could never repeat it, either, but I might not have waited long enough. On a related issue, davidg@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (David Guntner) asked, once you get into the control panel, "what can you do with it?" As I recall, you can affect the flying balls' speed, separation, and flight patterns. (The patterns appear to be analogous to oscilloscope "Lissajous figures," created by imposing sine waves of differing frequency in the X and Y directions of motion; the control panel appears to give you control over the frequencies used. By thinking Lissajous, I was able to create the flight-paths I wanted...) That's the poop. Thanks to all who wrote; in order as received: DEUTSCH Thyss@cup.portal.com ludde@nada.kth.se (Erik Lundevall) gregory m stiegler Todd Olson sun!usc.edu!wdao%girtab.usc.edu (Walter Dao) hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Anthony Adam Hill) "JKT (814) 862-8630" - Kurt Tappe ldonahue@NMSU.Edu -- Larry Donahue "Mike Santoro" davidg@attctc.Dallas.TX.US (David Guntner) mike@otto.lvsun.com (Mike Mazzone) bchivers@smiley.mitre.org (Brent Chivers) sun!gatech.edu!dcatla!mclek (Larry E. Kollar) Your input is much appreciated! Thanks ! Chris Chiesa Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com