Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!tank!rtp1 From: rtp1@tank.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: SR10.2 and life Message-ID: <7004@tank.uchicago.edu> Date: 3 Jan 90 03:26:06 GMT References: <47cb7191b.000f088@caen.engin.umich.edu> Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 28 I never said the competition was any better, did I? I bought an Apollo, didn't I? Did I even say I wish I had bought a Sun or SG (I don't, btw)? Basically, Sun's whole product line has become as boring as IBM mainframes, except for the Sparcstation, which is a great little machine at a very fair price. All that notwithstanding, things in the workstation world are much worse than they ought or need to be, and if we are going to start improving things, why not start with Apollo/HP. I think that breaking something as important as NFS, and not coordinating the NFS release with the 10.2 upgrade, is very shoddy workmanship. If it hadn't been for the chance encounter here, I probably would have installed 10.2, found that NFS wouldn't work, and been out of business until it all got straightened out. Things shouldn't be that way. And I wouldn't mind so much paying the piddling $100 for a new NFS, if it weren't so hard to find out just what to order, and if it didn't take so long to get it. There is no good reason it should take longer to get a tape cartridge than it takes to get Mac or PC software, but it always does (see my posting on Fortran, below). If Apollo really wants to be at the top of the heap, they will fix this problem. And what ever became of the idea of producing a quality product and standing behind it? It is true that software prices (initial) at Apollo are about the lowest in the business, but the discounted present value of the maintainence charge makes the real cost astronomical. I'd rather pay a fair price up front, and then have Apollo stand behind there product, and guarantee that they will inform me when they do something to break it, (and to send along the appropriate update in a timely fashion).