Xref: utzoo comp.unix.ultrix:2421 comp.sys.dec:2370 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!samsung!uunet!cbmvax!grr From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: 5810 installation report Message-ID: <9179@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 1 Jan 90 07:49:52 GMT References: <9172@cbmvax.commodore.com> Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 57 In article <9172@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes: > Well, the my 5810 is now "installed" and seems to work. > > A couple of problems/notes... > > 0) there's no real good overall "start-here-with-this-tape" map... > 1) If you let the system self-configure... > 2) The software package includes distribution tapes for bot... > 3) NONE of the traditional "unsupported" software is shipped... > 4) I ordered DECnet/Ultrix and DECserver 200, however... > 5) The Ultrix Workstation Stuff, which I haven't braved yet... Well, it's a couple days later (what holidays?) 6) While there isn't an obvious "Unsupported" tape with the main Ultrix stuff, the "UWS 2.0 UNSUPPORTED" tape appears to be the same file sets as it would be, so just stick it in and do a setld -i. 7) There doesn't seem to be a coyp of the "Ultrix Worksystem 2.1 release notes included, just the combined Ultrix 3.0/UWS 2.0 notes and a Xeroxed Ultrix 3.1C release notes. If you happen to have received the 3.1 Upgrade (VAX or RISC) earlier you got a copy with that. 8) None of the UWS "user oriented" manuals are included, only the the three thin guides to setting up diskless/RIS/workstation stuff. If you want to install the UWS "development environment" and stuff so the 5800 can act as a "compute server" you end up feeling pretty insecure with no manuals. Turns out you setld the "Supported WS" tape and then the "Ultrix 3.1/UWS 2.1 Upgrade" tapes. 9) Once you've loaded the above tapes (on top of the base 3.1C install) you find you don't have any "X" manual pages. You either have to force setld to load the man pages from the VAX tapes or force it to reload the UDTMAN030 and UDTMAN031 loads from the "UWS 2.0 supported base" and "Ultrix 3.1/UWS 2.1 Upgrade" tapes, since the UWS man pages aren't a seperate load on the RISC UWS tapes. At this point I've finally got a base system and get to start converting over all the local utilities and stuff. I'm planning on installing the latest BSD UUCP, sendmail and bind instead of using the Ultrix stuff and might even upgrade from News 2.10.3beta 8-). I've only seen two real problems so far. First I apparently mangaged to have the system while creating a hard link to a tape device. Don't know if this is real or repeatable. No other crashes or hangs... Second, I've got a couple of DMB32's, but when I activated logins on a couple of lines (with no cables attached yet) a later caught them running up a bunch of CPU time. This isn't funny, but I haven't had a chance to try various thing and see what the system thinks it's doing. Anybody had problems with DMB32's on VAX Ultrix? -- George Robbins - now working for, uucp: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr but no way officially representing arpa: cbmvax!grr@uunet.uu.net Commodore, Engineering Department fone: 215-431-9255 (only by moonlite)