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From: ron@woan.austin.ibm.com (Ronald S. Woan/999999)
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Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!!
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Date: 22 Dec 89 16:23:42 GMT
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In article <37474@apple.Apple.COM>, rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) writes:
> I think you've greatly missed the point here.  I can put multiple monitors
> on any Mac II or SE/30 class machine, 

You can also have multiple monitors with any IBM PC. I have a
monochrome and EGA monitor attached to mine running PCDOS3.3 for
debugging graphical applications. Through third party hardware, you
can have even more sophisticated setups.

> You talk about running 4 monitors on a PS/2 running AIX (UNIX!) and
> X-Windows(!!!) just to accomplish the same thing.  

Hardly the same thing! You accomplish that plus you get a low-end
workstation to boot.

> Then you talk about getting a computer with a 25 MHz processor, VGA,
> and a 150 meg hard disk.  Well, I dunno if you've priced IBM
> hardware lately, but if you can get a Model 70 with decent memory
> and all those things for $3500 dollars, 

That's the beauty of it; you don't need to buy genuine IBM hardware.
In the MSDOS world we have a wide variety of sources. I don't remember
what prices I quoted last time, but paging through Computer Shopper,
you can easily put together a machine matching those specs at $3500.
Monitors are relatively cheap until you go above 14" anyways.

> And I guess you can run AIX on a clone, although I'm not sure who's
> doing it.  And besides, its AIX!!!!  Not DOS!  Not Windows!  Not
> OS/2!!!  Not anything close to what normal people use!

Tell that to the thousands of Xenix, SCO, Interactive, Bell Tech., AIX
users out there!  OK it's not the norm, but PC clones give you great
flexibility at the minimum price.

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