Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:40712 comp.sys.mac:45060 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!psueea!parsely!bucket!leonard From: leonard@bucket.UUCP (Leonard Erickson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!! Keywords: Get real... Message-ID: <1846@bucket.UUCP> Date: 24 Dec 89 08:46:03 GMT References: <1989Dec21.010731.5240@hellgate.utah.edu> <6767@tank.uchicago.edu> <1989Dec17.112127.27333@me.toronto.edu> <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <4574@ur-cc.UUCP> <37366@apple.Apple.COM> <625@bogart.UUCP> <1193@awdprime.UUCP> <37474@apple.Apple.COM> Organization: Rick's Home-Grown UNIX; Portland, OR. Lines: 37 rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) writes: >In article <1193@awdprime.UUCP> @cs.utexas.edu:ibmchs!auschs!woan.austin.ibm.com!ron writes: >>In article <1989Dec21.010731.5240@hellgate.utah.edu>, >>t-jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Tony Jacobs) writes: >>> Oh, can the PC expand to two monitors and have contiguous workspace that >>> is user configurable?? I've *got* two monitors on my XT clone. And I've got several applications that right out of the box will work with the combo. Most applications don't care which monitor I run them on, but the ones I mention will use *both* at the same time (text on one and graphics on the other for the spreadsheets, source on one, output on the other for the compilers and debugger). Hercules Graphics Card Plus an a VGA card. It works. There are things that are no doubt easier on the Mac. But pay attention here... EVEN IF I HAD WANTED ONE, THERE IS NO WAY i COULD HAVE AFFORDED A MAC!!! The largest single expenditure on this system was when I bought the VGA card an monitor (used). $600. My system isn't top-of the line, but I didn't have to get a loan to buy it. The Mac will be the "computer for the rest of us" the day you can buy a usable (however crippled) system *that is expandable* for under $500. I can put together a usable system for that. I wouldn't recommend it, but I could. 2 floppies, 8088, CGA with composite output (so you can use a TV for a monitor), 640k of RAM. That's how I started (in the IBM world, I already had several 8-bit computers). Such a system can be *incrementally* upgraded all the way to a 486... (yes, you'd probably replace the case at some point... so?) This doesn't make the PC "better", it makes it more accessible. Maybe the Mac would benefit from some clones? -- Leonard Erickson ...!tektronix!reed!percival!bucket!leonard CIS: [70465,203] "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." -- Solomon Short