Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:40734 comp.sys.mac:45072 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!usc!ucsd!hub!6600pete From: 6600pete@hub.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: IBM vs. Mac - Long (was Re: Xerox sues Apple!!!) Message-ID: <3420@hub.UUCP> Date: 25 Dec 89 19:40:35 GMT Sender: news@hub.UUCP Lines: 38 Follow-up To: alt.religion.computers References: <1989Dec22.183926.27643@ntvax.uucp> From article <1989Dec22.183926.27643@ntvax.uucp>, by jbeard@ntvax.uucp (Jeff Beardsley): > I also work in a lab with IBMs and MACs. Both are running on the same > network, and use the same drives and printers. Both run similar software, > both have similar interfaces, and the MACs cost twice as much. Are you going to call Windows a useful piece of software? Come on, the thing is such a horrible kludge of a Mac clone it makes me mad just to watch the mouse pointer galumph across the screen. > The Mac side of the network is USUALLY broken, with print queues stacking up, > and the printers silent, or there are problems launching applications from the > servers. Hmmm. Sounds like a support problem to me. Either that or somebody who thinks the Mac is simpler than it is "reconfigures" your network for you without checking upstairs first. I've administrated a Mac network with over 200 machines on it, and never had problem one with the net itself. (Of course, setting file permissions is always a pain, but then again it is on all network systems...) > One day I had this problem (47 jobs in the queue on the Image Writer, and > .... silence). I called upstairs about the problem and down came a test print > which worked perfectly . . . I call back to find out what they did, and I am > told that the test print came from the IBM side of the net! Which tells me that your support people are still using antique architecture and refuse to change, which explains the difficulties you have with your Mac net. Some problems with computers, especially those in an institutional setting, stem from something other than the computers themselves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Gontier | InterNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu, BitNet: 6600pete@ucsbuxa Editor, Macker | Online Macintosh Programming Journal; mail for subscription Hire this kid | Mac, DOS, C, Pascal, asm, excellent communication skills