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From: fel@hpcuhb.HP.COM (Skip La Fetra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: DESQVIEW 386 W/ 600K APPLICATIONS
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Date: 28 Dec 89 23:29:51 GMT
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> What's unique about my situation is that this
> student version of GCL requires 600K to run.
Ouch!  This is going to be difficult.  I've been able to get better than
530K free (it depends on how many drivers and such you load.  I load a lot.)

> My question is,
> does anyone know if I'm going to be able to run this student version of GCL? 
> Does Desqview (or Windows) require a little bit of overhead in each of it's
> windows?  How much?  I can't spare more than a few KB.
I'm not sure you can get to 600K.  The documentation for my version claims
that under the best possible situation you can have 610K of program memory
(if you have a CGA), 600K (Mono/Hercules), or 535K (EGA/VGA).  It's going
to be tight.  I'd try before you buy.  My own configuration claims 531K free
(VGA).

> Assume I have a 386 with 4MB.
I have.  (This is also my own configuration)

> Also, what is the relationship between QEMM and Desqview 386?  Do you use them
> together?
Normal DesqView + QEMM/386 = DesqView 386 (it's a marketing bundle)

> ..., you often have to quit, load version number 1 and run
> your program.  If you want to do extensive editing, you quit version 2 and go
> back to version 1.  If you want to use the on-line tutorial, you have to quit
> whatever you're in and enter version 3.  *SO*, my real objective is to run all
> three of these at once as well as my word processor (350K).
This is what I use DesqView for.  I'd try to run two concurrent sessions of
your program (with/without editor) and a third window with your word processor.
You should have enough memory to do this with 4Meg.

> Does anyone know if Desqview can do the job?
I think so.  Though I'm concerned about that 600K...

> Finally, does anyone know of a reference where DESQview 386 is evaluated?  
Sorry.  No.

> Neil
- Skip (your mileage may vary.  I've already told you most of what I 
        know about DesqView.  I love it.)