Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!jarthur!uci-ics!ucla-cs!srt From: srt@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Now that the smoke had cleared (Honest Mac/IBM questions) Message-ID: <30290@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 29 Dec 89 20:52:00 GMT References: <1284@marlin.NOSC.MIL> <970@v7fs1.UUCP> <129727@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Reply-To: srt@cs.ucla.edu (Scott Turner) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 36 In article <129727@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> acm@sun.UUCP (Andrew MacRae) writes: >You sound like the Scottish farmer asking the city dweller how many >bales of hay his Jaguar can carry, then not understanding why anyone >would want a vehicle that can't carry hay. I get about a bale and a half into my XK120. Not legal in Solo II, you understand. :-) >The basic paradigms (don't you love that word?) of the two operating >systems are so different it simply doesn't make sense to ask the >questions you are asking. Differing computing paradigms but the same task paradigm. Rephrase the question slightly: How do I take the output from my test program, pull out the column of numbers I'm interested in, sort it, and print it on my LW? Not terribly difficult in the PC/Unix world - you just string together some tools "test | awk | sort | print" or whatever. Nearly impossible on the Mac. Similarly the question of looking at files not in the current (environment i.e., directory in DOS/Unix, folder in Mac-ese). That's a task you often want to perform, and one that is annoyingly hard on the Mac. (And sometimes also difficult under DOS/Unix, which is by no means perfect.) So I don't think you can toss these questions off as paradigm differences. They address real tasks that the poster expects to encounter in his day-to- day computing. A better response might be to explain why he won't be involved in those tasks if he gets a Mac. Scott R. Turner UCLA Computer Science "Become a Doktor of Forbidden Sciences" Domain: srt@cs.ucla.edu