Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!oliveb!orc!mipos3!esulzner From: esulzner@cadev4.intel.com (Eric Sulzner ~) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: DESQVIEW 386 W/ 600K APPLICATIONS Message-ID: Date: 3 Jan 90 04:18:34 GMT References: <213400081@s.cs.uiuc.edu> <7310002@hpuamsa.UUCP> Sender: news@mipos3.intel.com Organization: Corporate CAD, INTeL Corporation, Santa Clara, CA Lines: 47 In-reply-to: frank@hpuamsa.UUCP's message of 2 Jan 90 16:16:02 GMT In article <7310002@hpuamsa.UUCP> frank@hpuamsa.UUCP (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes: I only have used DESQview a little bit. I could get 562128 bytes free in a (full screen) COMMAND.COM DESQview "window". With Windows/386 I can get 578096 bytes free in a *full screen* COMMAND.COM "window" ("Windows beats DESview by over 15K!" :-)). To this you can add the resident size of COMMAND.COM (nearly 4K (I think) see "map[mem]", "mi" etc.) if you start your application directly from a PIF file (instead of *via* COMMAND.COM). The Windows/386 test was done on a *2* MB HP Vectra QS/16 with : - 636 K (*not* 640) of Base/Convential memory (our (HP) machines have a 4K extended BIOS) - BUFFERS=8 - FILES=20 - *no* drivers - *no* TSRs - WIN.INI: windowmemsize=420 (or down to 385) - WIN.INI: emmsize=0 (because windowmemsize!=640) The DESQview test was done on the same system (perhaps with 640 K Base Memory). I think that DESQview *claimed* that it could give more but it did not. The numbers from the Memory Status command (*before* opening the Mmph. I tried Windows 386 and Desqview 386 on 2M (total ram) Intel 386 boxes. When running typical user applications I support (Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3, kermit, some others) Desqview beat Windows cold. Windows 386 could barely get Wordperfect 5.0 up in a full screen. Desqview 386 held all 3, plus GEM or Harvard Graphics (though it got into disk [or designated ramdisk] swapping after a point). Maybe I missed something in RTFM (Windows 386 M is lousy, Desqview's better but not great). Please tell me if you know I'm wrong. Windows 386 did much better with applications written for Windows. It wasn't clear from your post, but if you ran Desqview with *no* drivers, you weren't running Desqview 386. Desqview 386 is Desqview 286 with QEMM.SYS. I typically set BUFFERS and FILES = 20. esulzner@cadev4.intel.com -- Eric Sulzner esulzner@cadev4.UUCP esulzner@cadev4.intel.com 54177