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From: frank@hpuamsa.UUCP (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: DESQVIEW 386 W/ 600K APPLICATIONS
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Date: 3 Jan 90 16:18:17 GMT
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Eric Sulzner writes :

>Mmph.  I tried Windows 386 and Desqview 386 on 2M (total ram) Intel 386 boxes.
>
>When running typical user applications I support (Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3,
>kermit, some others) Desqview beat Windows cold.  Windows 386 could barely get
>Wordperfect 5.0 up in a full screen.  Desqview 386 held all 3, plus GEM or
>Harvard Graphics (though it got into disk [or designated ramdisk] swapping
>after a point).  Maybe I missed something in RTFM (Windows 386 M is lousy,
>Desqview's better but not great).

  Eric, please see my second posting which contains some small
corrections and additions.

  In my tests the *first* Windows/386 full screen window was bigger
(more memory available) then that of DESQview 386. For the *second*
window it was quite the reverse (315952 for Windows (if windowmemsize=385,
less if windowmemsize is bigger) and 549120 for DESQview).

  Indeed on a 2 MB system there will be no third window possible in
Windows THREE86, while DESQview will be happily swapping along.

  With regard to documentation: You can't have missed something in TFM
of Windows/386 because there is no such thing. Perhaps you found some
bound paper in the box, but a *manual*, I don't think so :-) | :-(.

> Please tell me if you know I'm wrong.

  We are both "right" (see above and my postings)

> It wasn't clear from your post, but if you ran Desqview with *no* drivers, you
> weren't running Desqview 386.  Desqview 386 is Desqview 286 with QEMM.SYS.

  I said :

>     The Windows/386 test was done on a *2* MB HP Vectra QS/16  with :
          ^^^^^^^^^^^
  The DESQview test was done on the same system and with the same
settings (see my second posting for corrections/additions). Of course
QEMM.SYS was used, otherwise I could never have gotten the numbers I got.
DESQview 286 (i.e. "DV" instead of "XDV") will give numbers in the 380 K
range.

  *I* should have said "*no* OTHER drivers". *You* probably should have
better RTFP ("P" for "posting") :-). No offense, you are right to try to
clear up possible misunderstandings..

  Even after this short while I like DESQview better for the reasons you
stated. It still crashes a lot on me, but that is probably caused by my
inexperience, wrong settings, lousy graphics "applications" (read
"games"), etc. For well behaving applications there are no problems and it
is easy to set up and use. I probably will follow Quarterdeck's advice
and run Windows/TWO86 in a DESQview 386 window if I have to (for MS
Windows applications).

Frank Slootweg.