Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:44977 comp.sys.ibm.pc:40608 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!apple!rewing From: rewing@Apple.COM (Richard Ewing) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Xerox sues Apple!!! Message-ID: <37483@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 22 Dec 89 16:34:09 GMT References: <6767@tank.uchicago.edu> <1989Dec17.112127.27333@me.toronto.edu> <14960@boulder.Colorado.EDU> <1989Dec17.223025.6618@me.toronto.edu> <1989Dec18.040441.30118@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> <33269@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1160@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> <629@hepburn.UUCP> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 61 In article <629@hepburn.UUCP> jerry@hepburn.UUCP (Jerry Shekhel) writes: >In article <1160@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) writes: >> >> I can double-click on a document which opens the application and opens >> the document ready for whatever processing the application does. I can >> use command keys to intiate actions in single strokes that depending >> on the PC interface, usually requires several keystrokes (arrow keys) >> to locate the command and execute it there are probably others as well >> that the interface on the Macintosh allows that speed up certain >> operations on the Mac over its PC counterparts. And perhaps some vice-versa, >> though I think this rare.. >> > >Why do all the articles from Mac users sound like they were posted >in 1984? Why can't you guys accept the fact that there are things like >Microsoft Windows and OS/2 Presentation Manager -- a real GUI to which >most applications have been ported or are about to be ported?. With OS/2 >you also get a real operating system, something available only to the >highest-end Macs (A/UX or whatever -- BTW, does A/UX have the Mac interface?). >Anyway, why can't you people see that the PC world has already evolved >beyond plain MSDOS, and is changing rapidly? > >>-- >>Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 >> >--- >+--------------------+-----------------------+-------------------------------+ >| | Polygen Corporation | UUCP: | >| Jerry J. Shekhel | Waltham, MA 02254 | {princeton, mit-eddie, | >| | (617) 890-2888 | bu, sunne}!polygen!jerry | >+--------------------+-----------------------+-------------------------------+ Sure, I'll admit that Windows and OS/2 w/PM exists. However, I think you're very wrong about the number of applications available for them. Windows are quite a few, but nowhere near a decent ratio to standard DOS applications, and as for the number of OS/2 applications out there, don't make me laugh. They just don't exist. Why? BEcuase there's been no demand, especially since OS/2 really isn't finished enough to be pratical for the common user. Also, don't beleive the myth that OS/2 will magically begin to work inside of 2 megs of memory. The sucker is just too big, and contains too much compiled code to be practical anywhere inside of 4 megs. Oh sure, you may be able to get it up and running in three megs. But what can you do with it? Run Sidekick? I will agree that OS/2 is very robust on paper. But since when is Windows running under DOS a "real operation system", by your standards? And why isn't the Mac? And just what is the Windows' user's upgrade path? -- __________________________________________________________________________ |Disclaimer: I run 125 INITs. Nothing I say can be seriously considered. | | | |Internet: REWING@APPLE.COM-----------------------Rick Ewing | |ApplelinkPE & MacNet Soon!------------------Apple Computer, Inc. | |Applelink: EWING--------------------100 Ashford Center North, Suite 100 | |Compu$erve: [76474,1732]--------------------Atlanta, GA 30338 | |GENIE: R.EWING1--------------------------TalkNet: (404) 393-9358 | |USENET: {amdahl,decwrl,sun,unisoft}!apple!rewing | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^