Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!ucsd!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!crash!pnet01!jca From: jca@pnet01.cts.com (John C. Archambeau) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Mac Plus, System 6.0.4, and ST1096N Message-ID: <971@crash.cts.com> Date: 24 Dec 89 02:36:01 GMT Sender: root@crash.cts.com Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA Lines: 49 I make it a habit to use Mac Pluses to format our hard drives and we just got a couple of ST1096N's (the new 3.5" 80 Mb Seagate) and it won't work with the Mac Plus. The problem is that it won't boot. I formatted the drives under Unimac StorWare 1.7 and I called Unimac about the problem and they say it's a ROM problem with the Mac Plus. I'm 99.99% sure that the problem is NOT with the Seagate ST1096N because I plug the drive into a IIcx and it works as expected. No problems. Unimac also tells me that they have tested StorWare 1.7 and it works with the ST1096N to their knowledge (and it does on the IIcx). Another thing that makes me more weary of the Plus is the fact that I can't select the damn startup device from the control panel with 6.0.4 with any hard drive configuration. I have tried doing straight copies of 6.0.4 to the hard drive and also going through the installer to try to make the damn startup device control panel document to come up, but no dice. I can't select the startup device on a Mac Plus with 6.0.4. Works on all of the other Macs, but not one single Plus. Unimac claims it's a ROM problem with the Plus. I suspect they're right since their SCSI driver works on the Mac IIcx. I will try it on the SE later. I realize that the ST1096N is too much of a high end drive to put on a Mac Plus, but if somebody wants one, they're going to buy one and I know Seagate is going to eventually weed out the ST296N since a lot of their older products have been on the chopping block (primarily ST412/506 drives) and it would not surprise me that the ST296N would go because it's obsolete and replaced by the ST1096N. So what now, Apple? You going to point the finger at Unimac, Seagate, or me (claiming I installed the damn thing incorrectly)? I did not want to leave the office for the holiday with a pending verbal problem with Apple directly as of yet, but I suspect I will have to take it to Apple if it is indeed a ROM problem. If anybody else has had this problem, please share your knowledge and wisdom with me via e-mail, maybe we can put our collective intelligence together and find a solution. // JCA /* **--------------------------------------------------------------------------* ** Flames : /dev/null | My opinions are exactly that, ** ARPANET : crash!pnet01!jca@nosc.mil | mine. Bill Gates couldn't buy ** INTERNET: jca@pnet01.cts.com | it, but he could rent it. :) ** UUCP : {nosc ucsd hplabs!hd-sdd}!crash!pnet01!jca **--------------------------------------------------------------------------* */