Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!cmhgate!f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG!Adam.Frix From: Adam.Frix@f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Apple OS 7.0 - Cost? Message-ID: <35036.2598DF8A@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG> Date: 23 Dec 89 08:21:21 GMT Sender: ufgate@cmhgate.FIDONET.ORG (newsout1.26) Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/200 - Aurora Borealis, Gahanna Oh Lines: 42 Adrian Sullivan writes: AS> a month or so ago i posted a note saying how the local mac AS> dealer in the State College, PA area was not giving out the AS> startup disks for free (they were selling a $50 dollar AS> package of disks w/ manuals) ... i talked with the manager AS> of the store, and he said that apple told him that they were AS> no longer allowed to give away system software as of 6.0.3 AS> ... a person or two from apple (before validating what the AS> manager said) and i was told that apple still gives out free AS> upgrades if you bring the master disks (but it was the AS> dealers option to allow it) ... I, too, was lied to by a Columbus, Ohio Apple authorized dealer (Micro Center, if anyone cares). They said damn near the exact same thing. Something about "oh, we _just_ got in a memo from Apple saying we'd lose our authorized dealer status if we gave away system software..." A call to Apple 5 minutes later showed just what you said--it's the dealer's option to give it away or not. I found another dealer who was _MORE_ than willing to make up for Micro Center's deficiencies like that. The only thing you can do is vote with your dollars and never go to that dealer again. Better yet, as VP of PAMUG, you have some clout. Let that dealer know that he's soured ALL relations with PAMUG, and PAMUG will let anyone who cares to ask know just how that dealer does business. Now, on a related topic, does anyone else agree that if Apple would only set up a decent, decently policed dealer network, with factory support and supervision and a factory route for customers who were "worked over" in this manner (a la Toyota and Honda), it would go a long way toward easing our gripes about Apple's outlandish prices? I mean, some of us are willing to pay the price, if it includes service. But when it's a high price with little to no service included, many people will go elsewhere. --Adam-- +-- Export 3.0 -- Adam Frix via cmhGate - Net 226 fido<=>uucp gateway Col, OH UUCP: ...!osu-cis!n8emr!cmhgate!200!Adam.Frix INET: Adam.Frix@f200.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG