Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!hellgate.utah.edu!helios.ee.lbl.gov!nosc!crash!simpact!jeh From: jeh@simpact.com Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news Subject: Re: RE: Troubles adding batches with 5.9B Message-ID: <804.259b9514@simpact.com> Date: 29 Dec 89 23:47:16 GMT References: <8912190737.AA16720@uunet.uu.net> Organization: Simpact Associates, San Diego CA Lines: 47 In article <8912190737.AA16720@uunet.uu.net>, munnari!csc.anu.oz.au!gih900@UUNET.UU.NET (Geoff Huston) writes: >>We are running NEWS 5.9B. >> >>Last night a large number of articles that arrived in "rnews" format were >>rejected by the add/network command, with messages of the form >> >> Add news.group: JUNK (Cannot open output file (write access)) >>or >> Add junk: REJECT (Cannot open output file (write access)) >> > ....... > > check which account owns the itm files, and then check the diskquota entry - it > looks like you are out of quota (or out of free space on the disk). > Accounts and file ownership and directory protections and all were all as they used to be and as they are now -- ie I didn't change anything and things just suddenly started to work again. We don't use diskquotas here, and it's quite unlikely that the disk was full, since (a) there was 75 Mbytes of free space the next morning and (b) some batches had some items that were received correctly. > its just another of the integration problems - vaxc is not quite VMS - at this > point the NEWS code sees a -1 value from a file operation and says "oh well - > nice try" - to get past this to the RMS return status is what you are asking > for... could be interesting! imho this is one of the things that really needs to be worked on. It's a real pain to track down the cause of problems when the only diagnostic is equivalent to "there's a problem". Another nicety in the "problem tracking" area would be some trace capability. Folks are always having troubles getting their news.sys and news.distribution files right; it'd be nice to turn on a "forwarding trace" feature and get output like neighbor system crash: Item not forwarded (news.sys filter) neighbor system pnet01: Item not forwarded (news.distribution filter) where each decision is made. --- Jamie Hanrahan, Simpact Associates, San Diego CA Chair, VMSnet [DECUS uucp] and Internals Working Groups, DECUS VAX Systems SIG Internet: jeh@simpact.com, or if that fails, jeh@crash.cts.com Uucp: ...{crash,scubed,decwrl}!simpact!jeh