Newsgroups: ont.general Path: utzoo!utgpu!golchowy From: golchowy@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: Sunday shopping Message-ID: <1989Dec22.175546.20004@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> Organization: UTCS Public Access References: <89Dec20.141047est.2233@neat.cs.toronto.edu> <690@alias.UUCP> Distribution: ont Date: Fri, 22 Dec 89 17:55:46 GMT In article <690@alias.UUCP> kpicott%alias@csri.utoronto.ca (Socrates) writes: > >I completely and utterly disagree with the assumption that since someone is >forcing you to do something then that thing is necessarily evil. (This is >what I meant by "red herring".) > and in response to the comment: >> >>Funny, but I thought that in a free society, people ought to be able >>to do what they want, as long as it doesn't injure someone else. >> >This sounds more like anarchy to me. With any form of government people are >restricted by the rules of society, whether they agree with them or not. > Sounds pretty totalitarian to me.... If the laws of society are immoral or evil or unjust, I will do my best to change them legally, and if they are offensive enough, through civil disobedience. Obeying evil or immoral laws makes one guilty of evil or immoral behavior. The Nuremburg defense of immoral laws will not work...citizens who obey or support immoral laws are immoral. > Kevin Picott aka Socrates aka kpicott%alias@csri.toronto.edu > Alias Research Inc. R+D Toronto, Ontario... like, downtown > "There can be no offense where none is taken" - Japanese proverb Haven't you ever heard of human rights or individual rights? It is necessarily evil if you or the state force me to do something or not to do something which does not infringe on the rights of others. Sunday shopping does not infringe on your rights at all. The Sunday shopping laws infringe on my individual and human rights a great deal. They are offensive and immoral. -- Gerald Olchowy Chemical Physics Theory Group, Department of Chemistry University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A1