Path: utzoo!attcan!telly!evan
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Sunday shopping
Message-ID: <259461EC.6878@telly.on.ca>
Date: 24 Dec 89 05:43:07 GMT
References: <656@crk56.bnr.ca> <7784@cognos.UUCP>
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In article <7784@cognos.UUCP> stewartw@cognos.UUCP (Stewart Winter) writes:
>In article <19425@watdragon.waterloo.edu> daford@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Daniel Ford) writes:

>>It will never be possible to "guarantee" a common day off, there are too
>>many "critical" jobs.
>
>    I take it that you feel that having "The Bay" open on Sunday is
>a critical job.

No more or less critical then the neighbourhood McDonald's, the
the nearby monster "drugstore", or the wrestling match at Maple Leaf
Gardens. All are legally going Sundays.

>Or are you just suggesting that all jobs should be
>fair game for Sundays.  Remember that the job you do might be next.
>Would you mind working Sundays now and in the future?  Would you like
>to be married to someone who works on Sundays?

Fair game. Nobody in favour of Sunday shopping can be opposed to working
those days if need be. It would be hypocritical to say Sunday isn't a
special day concerning shopping, but it is concerning working.

>   Do you know what most people in stores are doing?  I bet you think
>they are shopping.  Turns out that many of the people who walk into
>a store are just there to look around ... basically entertaining 
>themselves.

Has someone told the Bay about this "fact"?

On this basis, the stores could qualify immediately for Sunday opening.
Entertainment facilities are specifically exempt from the closing laws.
Can they use your posting as proof?

>The majority of people who would go into a store on
>Sunday are not IN NEED.

Please provide some proof of why this is more applicable than on any
other day of the week. I don't think the major chains want so badly to
open Sundays so that the world can just browse...

>They would simply find Sunday more convenient.

Just about all kinds of shopping offers an element of convenience which
could be sacrificed.

Taking this to its absurd conclusion, one could argue that stores need
be open only one day per week. Anyone who runs out or needs something on
one of the other days should plan themselves better. Opening stores on
those other six days would only be pandering to the nastiness of the
marketplace and its need for that naughty word, convenience.

>I would argue that we have plenty of extended shopping hours already.

Plenty for you, that is. Maybe those extended hours have caused hardship
for some retail workers already. But you don't care, because we haven't
crossed YOUR line yet.

>The disruption that it causes to families can not be justified by the
>extra convenience that would be provided.

Before reading this, I thought you had a point based on earlier
postings. But this one tells me that you find things OK as long as
they don't affect YOUR life, even when they hurt others. Sunday shopping
would directly affect you, so you draw the line there. For you and
everyone else.

And then you have the nerve to accuse Sunday shopping proponents of
selfishness and not caring about the hardships their "lust for
convenience" may cause to others.

You should have stopped when you were ahead.

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  Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software, located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
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