Path: utzoo!censor!geac!alias!kpicott%alias@csri.utoronto.ca From: kpicott%alias@csri.utoronto.ca (Socrates) Newsgroups: ont.general Subject: Re: Sunday Shopping Message-ID: <698@alias.UUCP> Date: 28 Dec 89 16:55:14 GMT References: <89Dec22.171153est.2186@neat.cs.toronto.edu> Sender: kpicott@alias.UUCP Reply-To: kpicott%alias@csri.utoronto.ca (Socrates) Distribution: ont Organization: Alias Research Inc. Lines: 38 In article <89Dec22.171153est.2186@neat.cs.toronto.edu> mgreen@cs.toronto.edu (?) writes: > >[reams of ad-hominem attacks which have nothing to do with the issue] > I will concede one point to the afore-mentioned article. There is no point in arguing with me point by point. I like to look at the bigger picture. (Something like pointing out to an artist that brush stroke 257 and 1100 were poorly executed on his latest painting.) Aside from that I cannot understand two things: - how my opinion voiced in type on a public network suddenly became promoted to "forcing my views on others". - how the two points of view really differ from one another in any fundamental way I admit I like to play the Devil's advocate, if only to make people think about what they are saying. If this causes confusion and sounds like preaching I apologize, this is not the way it is meant. My concern is that this network has a very small percentage of retail workers and they are the ones to be most profoundly affected by Sunday shopping laws. Their side should be heard as well. Every retail worker or spouse of a retail worker that has posted on this issue has expressed adamant opposition. For the record: - I am not religious and do not attend church of any sort - I do not work in retail, although most of my friends/family do - I do all of my shopping whenever it occurs to me, and sometimes it occurs to me on Sundays - I fully believe in working harder to get ahead, but I do not believe in forcing someone to work hard just to make a living - For the above reason I support Sunday shopping if it can be regulated properly. (No, I don't believe regulation of businesses to prevent unfair practices is immoral or violating anyones rights.) - I do not believe that anyone working on an hourly basis ever got "ahead" in life by putting in more hours. Those that succeed do so by putting in more hours on a special service, product development, or something of this nature. (But they are free to work the extra hours if they choose, by the previous item.)