Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!csri.toronto.edu!mart Newsgroups: ont.general From: mart@csri.toronto.edu (Mart Molle) Subject: Re: Sunday shopping Message-ID: <1989Dec29.123430.15786@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, CSRI References: <25900FAC.1DA4@telly.on.ca> <1989Dec21.051318.6564@utzoo.uucp> <697@alias.UUCP> <25999616.7242@telly.on.ca> <1989Dec29.113120.6892@me.toronto.edu> Date: 29 Dec 89 17:34:30 GMT Lines: 49 In article <1989Dec29.113120.6892@me.toronto.edu> zougas@me.utoronto.ca (Tom Zougas) writes: >Someone had brought up the point about malls forcing stores to open. >I know (for a fact) that the TD Center _forces_ some of its stores >to be open on Saturday. Saturday is the slowest day for a mall located >in the basement of a downtown office tower. > >Extending this to what would happen if Sunday shopping were allowed >completely: stores located in malls (and we all know that malls >are the backbone of urban life :-) would be forced to open on Sundays, >even if the owners wanted them closed. This is not giving the store-owner >the freedom of selling his wares when he feels like it. Ummm, well, wouldn't the store owner have the option of moving his business elsewhere (to a location where Sunday is either a sufficiently busy to justify opening, or one that doesn't force him/her to open...)? Again, this is an example of a short-term transient. The mall owner will have to contend with a drop in rental rates when it comes time to renew all those leases (if the merchants don't want/can't afford to open on Sundays) because of the law of supply (of space, which is fixed) and demand (which varies, depending on how badly the merchants want to open a store in that mall). Notice that there is nothing stopping the mall owner from asking for a rent increase even without changing the shopping hours IF THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT IT; you can bet the mall owners who choose *not* to open on Sunday would raise their rents to compensate for the "advantage" of "less overhead" (or be forced to drop their rates if Sunday turned out to be a "good" day...). And, even if Sunday shopping is never approved, those mall owners will happily raise their rates to what they think they could have gotten for "closed on Sundays" space under the wide-open shopping system-- after all, what's stopping them? > As a matter of fact >if business is slow on forced days of opening, the owner will be forced >to raise prices to compensate for the overhead. I don't get it. Are you suggesting that there is some unwritten code of ethics in business that says you set your prices as X% of cost (X > 100), no matter what? You set your prices so as to maximize your profits. If raising prices would increase your profits (to "compensate for the overhead"), what's keeping you from raising them *now*, and just pocketing the increase? Go look up "elastic" and "inelastic" demand in an economics book, or -- better yet -- go read "Don't Get Taken Every Time: The Insider's Guide to Buying a Car" by Remar Sutton. This is a free market, not rent-control: sellers make decisions based on what they think is best for them, and not what is "right" according to somebody else's metric. Mart L. Molle Computer Systems Research Institute University of Toronto Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416)978-4928