Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!aplcen!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!fox!portal!cup.portal.com!Nagle From: Nagle@cup.portal.com (John - Nagle) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: power from phone line Message-ID: <25271@cup.portal.com> Date: 22 Dec 89 08:24:46 GMT References: <14230@jumbo.dec.com> <318@marvin.moncam.co.uk> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 26 You can indeed get a little power from the phone line, and there are standards on how much you can draw. When off-hook, you can draw over 100 MA, in fact. All sorts of telephone-related devices run off phone line power nowadays. Bear in mind that all sorts of interesting surges and spikes appear on phone lines. Ring is nominally 88VAC, 20Hz. Much larger spikes can occur during electrical storms, and are considered part of the normal operating environment. On the other hand, nothing particularly bad will happen if you short the phone line for brief periods. Equipment that attaches to the phone line is supposed to be FCC registered. Automatic testing from the central office will detect as faults lines which present unreasonable loads. The telco will probably think that they have a cable fault, and if they spend time and effort chasing one down and discover that your equipment is causing a false fault indication, you may be billed for the repair costs. This is especially true for something that presents a DC load during on-hook periods insufficient to take the circuit off-hook. That, to the central office, looks like water in a cable, and tends to be investigated. John Nagle