Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!irwin From: irwin@m.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: power from phone line Message-ID: <21000051@m.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 28 Dec 89 01:38:45 GMT References: <14230@jumbo.dec.com> Lines: 57 Nf-ID: #R:jumbo.dec.com:14230:m.cs.uiuc.edu:21000051:000:2669 Nf-From: m.cs.uiuc.edu!irwin Dec 27 15:45:00 1989 /* Written 10:21 pm Dec 4, 1989 by murray@jumbo.dec.com in m.cs.uiuc.edu:sci.electronics */ /* ---------- "power from phone line" ---------- */ >Suppose you have some remote instrumentation, like a seismometer, >or weather station, and you are transmitting that data back to a >central collection point via a phone line. >Can you scrounge any power from the phone line? I'm not thinking of >many watts, just enough to run a few slow CMOS chips. >Is there an obvious book I should know about that answers things like >this? /* End of text from m.cs.uiuc.edu:sci.electronics */ A few years a go, the University of Illinois was doing some research on tracking wild animals, in Northern U.S. and in Canada. They would locate them by aircraft, fly low over them, shoot them with a stun gun dart, then land in a clearing, hike back and tab the animal with an ear tag. They also mounted a collar with a radio transmitter on it. They had phone pairs ran up to the top of high ground, spaced some 50 miles apart. Connected to the phone pair was an RCA 1802 CMOS microprocessor, with ROM, RAM and a few CMOS radio receivers. They put the transmitters on various frequencies, based on the type of animal. A Bear was on one frequency, Elk on another, Moose on another, Deer on another, etc. During idle time, the RAM and radio receivers were powered down, just a minimum amount of circutry was active. This would allow the phone pair to recharge the nicads. When they called the phone pair, it would activate the 1802, with the small amount of ROM and stack memory, they would tell the 1802 to output to an I/O port, which would enable the main RAM and they would then download software to it. They could then with the software in RAM, activate various I/O port configurations, which would enable a given receiver. If the receiver was receiving a signal, they would know that Mr. Bear was within radio distance, if he wasn't, they would disable that receiver and go on to the next one. With a grid of phone/microprocessor stations, they could track the animals. By finding which stations were receiving a given frequency, they could plot a vector to figure quite closely where they were. Though I was not involved with this, I know the person who was, that built the hardware and wrote the software for the project. He even went into the "wilds" on a few occasions, to help with the stations being set up and bagging the animals to tag/collar them. He still lives locally and I could put anyone in contact with him that might desire to talk with him via phone. Me, I thought it was a very neat project. Al Irwin Univ of Illinois Dept of Comp Sci irwin@m.cs.uiuc.edu