Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!hal!mark From: mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: 60 ohms considered harmful Keywords: 75 is dangerous too, and 40 is Right Out Message-ID: <33982@mips.mips.COM> Date: 28 Dec 89 07:34:47 GMT References: <33863@mips.mips.COM> <17660039@hpfcdj.HP.COM> Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mark@mips.COM (Mark G. Johnson) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 35 >> Seen on page 33 of the December 18, 1989 issue of EE TIMES >> >> ... Augat product manager Mike Prisco ... >> >> "All high-speed logic is going to need 50 ohms" > > >Yup. And clearly in the context of high-speed logic requiring >controlled-impedance PC boards and connectors. So what's wrong >with that? Yow, lack-o-smileys lamentably impedes universal understanding (again). As C programmers, ask yerselves "why is there a magic number (50) embedded up there?" That's the joke, ladies und gents --- the quote above, read contrapositively, says, "if it isn't 50 ohms then it cannot be high speed logic". When stated this way, do you agree? Is 60 ohms truly a not-high-speed characteristic impedance? How about the Cray-1 with its 90 ohm characteristic impedance "mat"? (Or for that matter, the CDC 6600 and its 75 ohm coax). What about the folks at Tektronix who claim a Futurebus+ backplane will sustain 500 MBytes/sec (note: Futurebus+ != 50.0 ohms). Why does the number 50.00 inspire such closed-minded religious zeal? Should we indeed publicly preach that 60 ohms is considered harmful, and 40 is Right Out?? Are Cray and CDC either badly-designed, or not-fast?? Letting out a year-end harrumph, -- -- Mark Johnson MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 991-0208 mark@mips.com {or ...!decwrl!mips!mark}