Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: munnari!gara.une.oz.au!pmorriso@uunet.UU.NET (Perry Morrison MATH) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Low tech warfare Message-ID: <12687@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 2 Jan 90 02:47:28 GMT References: <12539@cbnews.ATT.COM> <12572@cbnews.ATT.COM> <12603@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia Lines: 24 Approved: military@att.att.com From: munnari!gara.une.oz.au!pmorriso@uunet.UU.NET (Perry Morrison MATH) In article <12603@cbnews.ATT.COM>, pyrite!peregrin@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu (News Feed) writes: > > Commentary on rev war etc. > Is it really true to describe the US armed forces as incompetent bumblers > who have no idea of what to do in a given situation? I find that hard to > swallow. > > David Pipes Well, I'm not sure that this discussion has expressed this view. However, I think that the effectiveness of the U.S. military has been questioned after a decade or more of embarrassing bungling. The Iranian hsotage rescue for example used choppers to fly a mission that exceeded their mean-time-before-failure. In other words, it was beyond the design limits of these particular helicopters (Ch-47s?). I believe that each service wanted a piece of the action and the result was a mish-mash of decision making. I guess we could contrast this with the Israelis who rarely put a foot wrong in covert operations. Didn't they steal an Egyptian radar unit during one of the Arab-Israeli conflicts ('67?). Entebbe and several other operations were also class acts.