Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: Shuttle Vandenburg Lauch Site Message-ID: <1989Dec20.174546.19216@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <1586@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 89 17:45:46 GMT In article <1586@rodan.acs.syr.edu> amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (A. Michielsen) writes: > ...[Vandenberg is good for...] electronic intell > isolation (which is prohibited by law, but the U.S Violates flagrantly, but > loudly complains when the soviets or chinese or japanese do it). Encrypted telemetry is (theoretically) prohibited only for ICBM tests, not for space launches, last I heard. And as I understand it, it's a gentleman's agreement, not a legally-binding treaty. >1. The environment is HOSTILE. Sand storms, Oxidation (rust), Solar damage > (UV ray intensity, tenperature, etc.), and the intense lack of relative > humidity... The sun shines just as brightly at KSC. And the humidity at Vandenberg is not particularly low; the suspected cause of the Amroc launch failure is icing, not seen in Amroc's tests because they were run at Edwards where the humidity *is* fairly low. Vandenberg is on the coast, remember. >2. The close proximity to several GREAT NATIONAL Historic assets caused great > consternation by all sorts of environmental, historical, animal, natural > special intrest groups... I don't know about "close proximity", but there is a problem in that Vandenberg itself is literally on top of some American Indian historical sites, and this causes hassles for planning and construction. > ... The recon payload limits > from the Cape then moved from marginal to practical... The recon payload limits from the Cape are still below what was originally forecast; they have *not* increased. And the Cape simply cannot reach the preferred orbits for most spysats without upsetting the range-safety folks a lot. The real reason Vandenberg shuttle launches stopped looking so useful was that the USAF won its battle to keep the Titans operating, and lost interest in using somebody else's launchers. -- 1755 EST, Dec 14, 1972: human | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology exploration of space terminates| uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu