Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: kilroy@mimsy.umd.edu (Nancy's Sweetie) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Strangers in a Strange World Message-ID: Date: 1 Jan 90 15:59:50 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 52 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article Dave Mielke writes about contraception, and says: > >The Scriptures very clearly teach that it is God who decides when any >given conception should take place. Lots of people make claims about what the Scriptures `clearly teach', and (like Dave) they usually can't be bothered to provide any verses, and we are just supposed to believe them. I usually don't. (Indeed, I usually just ignore articles that follow this pattern.) So then, do you have any verses which might lend support to your assertion? (To save bandwidth, don't bother quoting them, just give a list. And if they are really as clear as you claim, you won't need to provide any commentary either -- if you have to explain how you arrive at your interpretation, then the Scriptures do NOT `clearly teach' it.) Dave's article also said two other things, one of which makes no sense and one of which is horribly insulting. Firstly, we have this: > >If we believe that God makes perfect decisions then we must assume that >His decision to initiate another human life is for the long term best even >if we cannot see it and even if the short term prospects do not look very >good. Do you similarly suggest the people born with heart defects should not have corrective operations? Using your own argument, `if we believe that God makes perfect decisions then we must assume that his decision to end another human life is for the long term best.' And then, another in a series of insulting comments: > >Most people engage in sexual intimacy for their own short term >pleasure and not solely for the pleasure of their spouses. Dave, how do you know this? Can you read people's minds? How would you feel if I started claiming that you are an atheist who only posts articles here to make Christians look bad? You have no business making judgements like this (though you do it all the time), and you are rapidly convincing me that I need a KILL file for this newsgroup. kilroy@cs.umd.edu Darren F. Provine ...uunet!mimsy!kilroy "Intolerance is a state of mind, rudeness is a way of life." -- C. Wingate