Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!decwrl!decatl!shlump.nac.dec.com!quik07.enet.dec.com!burch From: burch@quik07.enet.dec.com (Ben Burch) Newsgroups: alt.hackers Subject: Re: CS curriculae (was Re: Distributed Hacking :-) Message-ID: <7384@shlump.nac.dec.com> Date: 11 Jan 90 15:31:36 GMT References: <1146@crash.cts.com> <5458@udccvax1.acs.udel.EDU> Sender: newsdaemon@shlump.nac.dec.com Reply-To: burch@quik07.enet.dec.com (Ben Burch) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 87 Approved: snoop@sopwith.camel (Snoopy Beagle) In article <1146@crash.cts.com>, guhsd000@crash.cts.com (Paula Ferris) writes: > > So, what are some of your accomplismnts that you'll admit to. The majority > of mine are curiosity motivated.... > > Mickey D's . . . > Telenet > > Those are among some of the more reconizible ones I've roamed through, and > out again...Strange though, the VAST magority of the large systems I've > peeked into are virtually unused... > > See you on QSD France. > WELL! I think here we have the beginnings of a war over the definition of the term hacker! I think that a "hacker" is one who programs computer systems for the love of the task, e.g., a computer artist. This writer thinks that a hacker is one who commits wire fraud, finding ways to enter, and perhaps unintentionally (or intentionally) causing damage to the capital property of another person, corporation, or government. I think the correct term for such foolish and childish activity is "Phreaking", and that those who commit the act are "Phreaks". I am PROUD to be a hacker in the sense I described above. It has been a source of joy and income to me ever since I washed out of the Astrophysics program at U of C. "alt.hackers" does not need phreaks, and I suggest that they create their own group, either "alt.phreaks", "alt.wire.fraud", or "alt.idiots". In article <1146@crash.cts.com>, guhsd000@crash.cts.com (Paula Ferris) writes: > From: guhsd000@crash.cts.com (Paula Ferris) > Subject: Re: CS curriculae (was Re: Distributed Hacking :-) > > Oh good, I've always wanted to start up a alt.hack group, but I don't think > my administrator would be fond of me playing with the system like that, and > I'd like to keep my account here. > > So, what are some of your accomplismnts that you'll admit to. The majority > of mine are curiosity motivated.... > > Mickey D's > General Dynamics > Pizza Hut > Pacific Bell > Mountain Bell > Dow Chemical > UCSD (several systems) > Tymnet > Telenet > > Those are among some of the more reconizible ones I've roamed through, and > out again...Strange though, the VAST magority of the large systems I've > peeked into are virtually unused... > > See you on QSD France. > WELL! I think here we have the beginnings of a war over the definition of the term hacker! I think that a "hacker" is one who programs computer systems for the love of the task, e.g., a computer artist. This writer thinks that a hacker is one who commits wire fraud, finding ways to enter, and perhaps unintentionally (or intentionally) causing damage to the capital property of another person, corporation, or government. I think the correct term for such foolish and childish activity is "Phreaking", and that those who commit the act are "Phreaks". I am PROUD to be a hacker in the sense I described above. It has been a source of joy and income to me ever since I washed out of the Astrophysics program at U of C. "alt.hackers" does not need phreaks, and I suggest that they create their own group, either "alt.phreaks", "alt.wire.fraud", or "alt.idiots".