Xref: utzoo comp.ai:5430 sci.philosophy.tech:1876 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uflorida!novavax!twwells!bill From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: comp.ai,sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: more Chinese Room Message-ID: <1990Jan9.162338.28110@twwells.com> Date: 9 Jan 90 16:23:38 GMT References: <2602@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> Organization: None, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Lines: 28 In article <2602@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> pnf@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Paul N Fahn) writes: : I have always felt that there was something unfair and structurally : unsound in Searle's argument, and upon reading his recent article in : Scientific American, I've put my finger on it. I don't particularly agree with your views; however, there is another, more serious, flaw in his argument. Suppose that the assignment of meaning is a process rather than a static relationship. Were that so, the Chinese room would be irrelevant, since it only corresponds to a particular process. Hence his assertion that he has demonstrated that strong AI is false is simply false. Just to add a little "balance", I don't find the arguments on the other side particularly compelling, either. And, in fact, their arguments fall to the same point: intelligence is very definitely *not* an I/O mapping. It is a process. My own view is that, until we have a reasonable idea of how consciousness operates, arguing about whether computers can be conscious is about as anachronistic as arguing about the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh | sunvice } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com