Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!edcastle!aiai!jeff From: jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Sci. American AI debate: No Contest Message-ID: <1520@skye.ed.ac.uk> Date: 9 Jan 90 18:07:13 GMT References: <12679@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <16603@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> Reply-To: jeff@aiai.UUCP (Jeff Dalton) Organization: AIAI, University of Edinburgh, Scotland Lines: 11 In article <16603@megaron.cs.arizona.edu> mike@cs.arizona.edu (Mike Coffin) writes: >Moreover, I (at least) am not arguing that symbol pushing can produce >intelligence. I merely argue that Searle has not proven that it >can't. This is very different. (My own view is that we don't know >enough about intelligence to have the slightest idea what might be >necessary to create it.) I agree. I think it's at least very difficult to decide this question now, when we've never seen a program that can pass the Turing Test and have no idea what it would look like or how it would work or even if it's possible to have one at all.