Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!ogicse!decwrl!shelby!csli!ceb From: ceb@csli.Stanford.EDU (Charles Buckley) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Building a brain, revisited Message-ID: <11673@csli.Stanford.EDU> Date: 10 Jan 90 00:58:39 GMT References: <15439@well.UUCP> Sender: ceb@csli.Stanford.EDU (Charles Buckley) Distribution: comp Organization: Center for the Study of Language and Information, Stanford U. Lines: 29 In-reply-to: nagle@well.UUCP's message of 9 Jan 90 20:47:32 GMT In article <15439@well.UUCP> nagle@well.UUCP (John Nagle) writes: We have the semiconductor technology to build a brain. [deleted: back-of-editor-buffer calculations describing a hypercube topology machine producing equivalent bit throughput, based on a new "SuperChip" part from Motorola, which comes out to be of manageable, albeit ambitious size] Agreed that we have no idea how to program such a piece of machinery to be intelligent. But it could be built today. I think you compare apples and oranges. Sure, the raw compute power could be marshalled - this has been true for some time, though as you point out, it's getting to be within the scope of a realistic (?) research initiative (;^/. Brains do things that hypercubes don't though, which is learn, and that learning is reflected in the topology. Further, there's a non-binary (analog) aspect to the information transmitted. Might be interesting to redo the calculation including NN architecture (such as those being developed at Bell Labs) and/or analog modules (no-one is interested for these at the moment, so far I know). NN-stuff doesn't adequately provide for the representation of time, though, so you'd have to keep some TM aspects, and how it is organized? Topology changes as a product of learning? Seems quite open to me, but I'd like to hear of efforts in this area.