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From: cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn)
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Subject: Re: Late thoughts on T Test, rooms, and functions
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Date: 10 Jan 90 06:19:16 GMT
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In article <8405@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> ele@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (eugene.l.edmon,lc,) writes:
>In article <2762@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn) writes:
>>.  No animal behavior, let alone human behavior resulting from
>>thought, is strictly deterministic.  
>What makes you so sure about this?  The latest argument on this
>score seems to be Penrose's in The Emperor's New Mind.  I think
>he failed to make the case.

I haven't read Penrose yet, but I believe my point is obvious, almost
trivial: the behavior of animals is unpredictable, not just at the
quantum level.  They move of their own accord, each cell in their bodies
moves on its own accord.  Only in a Skinner box is complete
predictability reasonably approximated.
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