Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!nsc!voder!dtg.nsc.com!andrew From: andrew@dtg.nsc.com (Lord Snooty @ The Giant Poisoned Electric Head ) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Chinese Room and the Babylonian Bureaucracy Summary: reflection of depth Message-ID: <492@berlioz.nsc.com> Date: 12 Jan 90 10:24:23 GMT References: <139@daedalus.nsc.com> <8489@cbnewsm.ATT.COM> Distribution: usa Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara Lines: 27 In article <8489@cbnewsm.ATT.COM>, ele@cbnewsm.ATT.COM (eugene.l.edmon) writes: > > andrew@dtg.nsc.com (Lord Snooty @ The Giant Poisoned Electric Head) writes: > >How can Searle assert that syntax in and of itself cannot give rise to > >semantics? An existence proof for the contradiction is there for all to see > >in (at least) every mentally normal human child. Isn't it really this simple? > > No, it isn't this simple. ok - so what's the scoop? > As children learn semantics they are not picking it up from the syntax. aha! - a contradiction; i'm all ears.... > If you still think this I would be interested in your further developing > the argument. i must have missed something somewhere.... > In fact, it seems to make more sense to argue that children > learn semantics first as they learn words then how to string > them together in sentences. at least it's obvious to you. that's nice, but hardly counts as a refutation, eugene. -- ........................................................................... Andrew Palfreyman andrew@dtg.nsc.com Albania before April!