Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!samsung!munnari.oz.au!uhccux!ames!vsi1!wyse!mips!winchester!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: R6000 PCs? [no, but later CMOS ones] Message-ID: <34410@mips.mips.COM> Date: 12 Jan 90 02:29:28 GMT References: <3300092@m.cs.uiuc.edu> <76700106@p.cs.uiuc.edu> <220@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> Sender: news@mips.COM Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc. Lines: 30 In article <220@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM> jml@tw-rnd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Michael Lodman) writes: >In article <76700106@p.cs.uiuc.edu> gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu writes: >>Who says we won't go to KMart once a year for Prestone PC-coolant to >>add to our PC's radiator? I can't see why it's so troublesome to cool >>1 card of ECL (CPU + cache). > >And how are you going to cool the coolant? The problem is that you will >need really heavy duty air conditioning into the room, or to >radiate the heat outside the room some other way. ECL equipment can >heat up a room FAST! > >By the way, add to your costs a much more expensive power supply for >the PC. Just to make sure there's no mis-impression: a) R6000s do not contribute to sales of Prestone or any other coolant; they are air-cooled, and they are VLSI ECL, not massive boards full of ECL gate arrays. b) However, as I've said before, no one is likely to build desktops from these things: even if aircooled, they are hot, and a desktop would turn into new kind of product: above-the-desk, as it floats on its fans. So please stop talking about R6000-based desktops. c) However, it is perfectly predictable that there will be CMOS-based desktops with the same CPU performance, within a few years. Whether you call these PCs or workstations doesn't matter much. -- -john mashey DISCLAIMER: UUCP: {ames,decwrl,prls,pyramid}!mips!mash OR mash@mips.com DDD: 408-991-0253 or 408-720-1700, x253 USPS: MIPS Computer Systems, 930 E. Arques, Sunnyvale, CA 94086