Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!snorkelwacker!spdcc!merk!alliant!linus!bs From: bs@linus.UUCP (Robert D. Silverman) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Integer Multiply/Divide on Sparc Message-ID: <88536@linus.UUCP> Date: 12 Jan 90 15:00:27 GMT References: <84768@linus.UUCP> <8840008@hpfcso.HP.COM> Reply-To: bs@gauss.UUCP (Robert D. Silverman) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA Lines: 65 In article <8840008@hpfcso.HP.COM> dgr@hpfcso.HP.COM (Dave Roberts) writes: : :Bob Silverman writes, :> :>In article <8840005@hpfcso.HP.COM> dgr@hpfcso.HP.COM (Dave Roberts) writes: : :Sorry Bob, : I don't have all the answers. I guess you do. I was just trying :to propose some solutions. I guess you're perfectly right. The SPARC :is a joke. Any machine that doesn't have integer multiply and divide is :crippled for life. Whoops, sorry, any machine that doesn't meet your (1) I never said the SPARC was crippled for life. Here we have the old slippery slope argument. I criticize one aspect of SPARC. One which makes it unsuitable for a class of applications and this clown immediately extrapolates the criticism to my saying that the SPARC is worthless. Your arguments also lack credibility when you start attacking me personally. :performance requirements in any way is crippled for life, and all the :people who designed it are sick in the head. You're right Bob. How :could I have been so stupid. I guess all those people who are building :chips without those functions you seem to need require are just silly, :never mind that they meet the needs of thousands of people. Honestly, :what was I thinkin', huh? : :I just thought that since you seem to have bought the wrong machine (in :your opinion), I'd try and help you make it work. I'm sorry I even suggested :you doing any extra work. I guess I should have included another option: (2) I didn't buy any SPARC's. I am fully aware of their defects for my type of applications. However, others with whom I work are gradually acquiring SPARC based workstations and replacing other (68020/80386) workstations that are better suited. What are those of us to do who want the greater speed of newer processors, yet who find that the architecture of the new products is deficient for their application? : (7) Sell the damn thing since you seem to hate it so much and buy : something else. Of course this time, try running some of your : code on it first so you'll know that it performs up to your Try getting the facts before shooting your mouth off. You'll look less like a fool that way. I do not own a SPARC, I have not bought one, nor have I ever said I bought one. Yet, you jump to the conclusion that since I have a criticism of a computer architecture it must be because I am dissatisfied with one I bought. : : :Sorry people. No smiley faces on this one. I'm just too tired of trying :to deal with a bunch of whiners who'll never be satisfied with anything Incredible. I try to carry on a conversation about the scientific merits of a processor, and point out that the market doesn't have an answer to the criticism and this retarded dweeb takes it personally!! He calls me a 'whiner' when I simply point out that the SPARC is defficient in a particular area. This is whining? It sounds to me like a statement of fact. -- Bob Silverman #include Internet: bs@linus.mitre.org; UUCP: {decvax,philabs}!linus!bs Mitre Corporation, Bedford, MA 01730