Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!dgp.toronto.edu!elf Newsgroups: comp.graphics From: elf@dgp.toronto.edu (Eugene Fiume) Subject: Re: Fractals, and Philosophy of Science Message-ID: <1990Jan6.122804.21949@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Organization: University of Toronto, CSRI References: <119.256E54C5@uscacm.UUCP> <1247@becker.UUCP> <9144@cbmvax.commodore.com> <6780@lindy.Stanford.EDU> <9215@cbmvax.commodore.com> <12707@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Date: 6 Jan 90 17:28:04 GMT Lines: 23 In article <12707@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> markv@gauss.Princeton.EDU (Mark VandeWettering) writes: > > >I don't believe that science will ever gain a view of the "big" picture, >only increasingly more complex and intricate views of increasingly smaller >and smaller scale effects. > >So ends the philosophy. > Reductionism doesn't preclude unifying the "big" with the "small". That's the goal, and it's the most effective scientific stance we've got. I'd rather see a hard problem broken up into small pieces than to believe in magic. I guess that's the thing that bugs me most about the fractal bandwagon. Fractals aren't magic. They're cute, fun and frilly mathematical objects that might have something to say about the world (I personally have my doubts). But fractallographers (!) run perilously close to endowing them magical power. [Just go to a populist talk on fractals sometime.] Soon, some yuck will be marketing New Age fractal crystals (-: . -- Eugene Fiume, Dynamic Graphics Project Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto elf@dgp.toronto.edu, (416) 978-5472