Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!willett!ForthNet From: ForthNet@willett.UUCP (ForthNet articles from GEnie) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Category 1, Topic 2 Message-ID: <95.UUL1.3#5129@willett.UUCP> Date: 4 Jan 90 21:06:13 GMT Organization: Latest Link in ForthNet Chain Lines: 36 Category 1, Topic 2 Message 13 Sat Dec 30, 1989 F.SERGEANT [Frank] at 15:43 CST Jax,thanks for clarifying it. Maybe April-April is putting off some prospective members - I don't know. Surely you talk to more new members than I do. All I could say is that it doesn't bother me. I still think it is possible that the CHANGE from $15/year to $30/year may have something to do with the declining membership, and especially affect our ability to reach the "younger generation." Of course $30 is not a major barrier to professionals working in Forth who already understand the value of Forth. But, aren't we trying to get the ones who aren't sure yet, ... before they become sure of C or Pascal, etc? Now, this is mainly theoretical on my part. I'm not on a mission to recruit new Forth programmers. I'm enough as far as I'm concerned, except I sure do like talking to the rest of you out there and hearing your ideas. Further, I don't know anyway to prove one way or the other that the change in membership fee was the major factor. If it is changed back to $15 and membership booms over the next several years people can always say that the fee had nothing to do with it, that other factors caused it. Now whether Apr-Apr leads to deluded financial planning is another question. It reminds my of an all too typical accounting cycle: the bookkeeping is backlogged. The end of the year happens (let's say Dec 31st). The ending inventory is counted but not priced out. It was exhausting, so the pricing is delayed. The bookkeeping falls further behind. A tax extension is obtained. Finally in late June or July the books are caught up thru Dec 31st and financial statements are pulled so tax returns can be done. The boss looks at the statements briefly but takes no action because they are so far out of date that he figures he'll wait till next year. Just because he was losing money THEN doesn't mean anything NOW as he's already more than half way thru the next year. Hopefully this doesn't apply to fig. -- Frank ----- This message came from GEnie via willett through a semi-automated program. Report problems to: 'uunet!willett!dwp' or 'willett!dwp@gateway.sei.cmu.edu'