Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!samsung!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!daveh From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: The Inevitable 1.4 Rom Problem (was Re: Ferrari Formula One and Message-ID: <9251@cbmvax.commodore.com> Date: 9 Jan 90 03:07:19 GMT References: <1293@corpane.UUCP> Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA Lines: 45 in article <1293@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) says: > Summary: sorry about the chopped up message > But the programs *dont* work with the new ROMs. It's too late to change that. Au contraire, ROM-breath! In MOST of the cases of ROM incompatibility, the company responsible for the program is still alive and kicking. It may take some yelling to get them to upgrade your program, or you may (like me) simply need to send in that old registration card. Personally, I haven't seen all that many programs that broke between OS revs. But if I happened to have one, I would certainly let my feelings be known in no uncertain terms. If a company can't even acknowledge their recognition of the need to supply updates and be forthcoming about their plans to do so to support currently broken software, I for one would not consider buying another piece of software from that company. And I would feel it my civic duty as a member of the Amiga community to warn everyone else about such traps. Just as I would strive to mention those companies with a proper attitude about fixing their bugs. I'm sure you wouldn't like bringing home that great new software widget, only to find out that it's broken under the current OS rev. But the only way to prevent this is for everyone to make the practice of not upgrading totally unacceptible. If there was an easy way to keep the old OS around, this might not seem as important, but it is. If an obselete OS is considered still viable by the majority of the user community, it will likely be considered so by the vendors as well, and then you're likely to fall into a situation somewhere down the road where each of your favorite packages needs a different OS rev. That would go a fair distance toward killing the Amiga and eliminating the OS compatibility problem by eliminating software growth, period. Multitasking doesn't cross ROM revisions! By the way, unlike Amiga object modules, the ROM code is not a relocatable module, but in fact hard wired to a particular address. Which is exactly why there is no utility, either from Commodore or elsewhere, that will let you load up an alternate ROM image without some magic. I used MMU magic in SetCPU, a 3rd party could of course build a ROM emulator for ROMed machines like the one I saw in Germany last year (if they have it at the Paris conference, I'll let you all know). > John Sparks | D.I.S.K. 24hrs 1200bps. Accessable via Starlink (Louisville KY) > sparks@corpane.UUCP <><><><><><><><><><><> D.I.S.K. ph:502/968-5401 thru -5406 > Beware of quantum ducks: Quark, Quark. -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Systems Engineering) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy Too much of everything is just enough