Path: utzoo!censor!kink!hugh From: hugh@kink.UUCP (Hugh D. Gamble @ Phaedra V's Amiga 2500) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: Help: Error Validating Hard Disk! Message-ID: <50372.AA50372@kink> Date: 3 Jan 90 08:35:23 GMT Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.tech Distribution: world Lines: 58 [ Lie neater? Why not just tell the truth? ] In <963@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>, lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry >A 'key n already set' error is not an indication of a bad block. It is an >Amigados error that says you have two hash table entries pointing at the same >block, which is illegal to Amigados, and "don't care" to the drive controller. > >About the only way, currently, that I know of to save the disk without backing >up and restoring, is to use something like Sectorama (or DiskX, or DiskEd, or >???), which is a sector editor that allows you to look at the information in >any sector on the disk. Unfortunately this does require a knowledge of the file >system, and even if you know the file system well, it is tedious, to say the >least. I've had success more than once using FixDisk. I just click a button, and the computer does the tedious part all by itself. When I check during the commercials in Elvira's Movie Macabre, and a requester is up asking me if I want the duplicate key removed, I say yes and the deed is done. I run kink under AmigaOS as a pretty busy news and mail site, as well as doing different kinds of work and play on the beast, but it's hard to recommend as a first choice for some of the former. Being on all the time with a lot of processes with filesystem activity going on, the odds are fairly high that file reading or writing will be going on when I, evil s/w, or even someone fiddling in a fuse box, cause a crash. A comment for the fs guys at C=, it's important to me to be able to recover a fs after a crash. It's a common necessity, and hard right now even with the best 3rd party & PD s/w that's available helping out. AmigaOS needs a good "fsck", even if it means making changes to the default (now ffs, for HDs) filesystem, even if it means taking a performance hit. Gigabytes of >1Mbyte/s disk are great, but most of the people who are willing to pay for it, aren't willing to watch Elvira for 2 hours because the system crashed while a file was open. Now if PageFlipper, PhotoLab, Space Spuds, etc. worked under Amix ... Nah, let's not give up on the Amiga's native OS yet, but for serious work it still needs some serious work. A C= supported product based on Dave's DiskSalv with 1.4 wouldn't be a bad start (hint, someone at C= *pay* Dave for it, OK?). >Perform a 'diskchange operation after removing the file, to cause the validator >to kick in again. I hadn't thought of that. Rather than "diskchange" a HD partition I always do a reboot when I want to validate it. Next time, I may try the diskchange trick (then reboot anyways :-). -- # Hugh D. Gamble (416) 267-6159 No Disclaimers. # hugh@kink.UUCP # looking for a woman who can sit in a mini-skirt and talk philosophy, # executing both with confidence and style.