Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!decwrl!ucbvax!imf.unit.no!hanche From: hanche@imf.unit.no (Harald Hanche-Olsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo Subject: Re: Pseudo TTYs and Apollos Message-ID: Date: 9 Jan 90 10:16:18 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 22 This problem was driving me up the wall in the spring of '89. We wanted to use NCSA telnet to log in on our apollos from PCs, and found that screen oriented programs like vi, emacs and others assumed the wrong screen size more often than not. I did not know enough about unix at the time to figure out what was going wrong, and neither did our local apollo representative, so I submitted an APR. I got an answer back saying, in essence, that not enough information was given, and they were unable to reproduce the problem. In the meantime, I did find out about the stty settings, so I sent a letter to the APR manager about it, telling him I still considered it a problem but the severity was much less because a simple workaround exists: In my .login file, there is the line if ($term == vt100) stty rows 24 columns 80 (after the usual eval `tset ...` stuff). This may be ugly, but it works... Anyway, the point of my little story is, if HP/Apollo don't know about this then they are having a problem keeping track of APRs. - Harald Hanche-Olsen Division of Mathematical Sciences hanche@imf.unit.no The Norwegian Institute of Technology hanche@norunit.bitnet N-7034 Trondheim-NTH NORWAY