Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!web-1f!laba-4ad From: laba-4ad@web-1f.berkeley.edu (Joseph Teo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Apple IIGS Message-ID: <1990Jan9.021220.27058@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 9 Jan 90 02:12:20 GMT Sender: Calvin Cheng Reply-To: laba-4ad@web-1f (Joseph Teo) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 44 I have been using II Plus (rather the Europlus) and then the IIGS and now the Mac SE/30. Back in Singapore where I came from (just 1 week or so ago), we've got this bunch of Apple II diehards too and I have been reading with interest (and sometimes amusement) at the mail left over Info-Apple. Unfortunately, the folks at the National University of Singapore were not generous enough to give all students access to the net. Now that I don't own the IIGS anymore (I actually wanted to keep it but that'd prevent me from buying the SE/30), I am in a position not to be as defensive about it. I still keep my II Plus namely because it's practically unsellable and it does retain a certain amount of sentimental value in me. As a long time Apple II user, I am rightfully displeased by the lack of attention and regard given to a fine, long-standing machine. The folding of Call-APPLE, the relegation of AppleFest into a free-for-all affair are just 2 recent unpleasant incidents in a long history of events. However, I do find some of the statements here getting a little irrational. I'm living happily with my Mac and I definitely find it the more useable machine. I don't even need the color graphics 'coz I'm not really into that. The small size of the display is more of a handicap. That's something I acknowledge. But as for as my needs are concerned, the Mac is the better machine. Of course, that doesn't mean that the Mac is the better machine to everyone. What Apple is going through now is a serious identity crisis. The 2 lines are just too different for any single sales policy to work. And the folks in marketing probably only see the more prominent side of the 2. They don't share the same fervor for the II as a lot of you out here. Worse still, I do seriously suspect that a lot of them are driven by short term goals. Much as I hate to say, the future lies with the Mac. The main problem here is Apple's either not doing enough or not doing anything fast enough to answer to the immediate needs of Apple II users. The optimum way out is to provide a low-cost upgrade path to the Mac while protecting the current investments of Apple II owners. That may sound a little far fetched considering the high margins that Apple sells her products but that's the only way out. Some of my friends have been frustrated enough to consider looking at Amiga. And I'd really recommend it for anybody who hasn't got a substantial Apple II grounding. I, on the other hand, have turned to the Mac. Well, some people have remarked that Apple has been arrogant enough to ignore the low end market. To some extent I do agree. But I still feel Apple should retain her status quo as a quality company. What of the rumor that Apple was going to split into 2 companies?