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From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: new HP-UX 7.0 elm question
Message-ID: <1990Jan7.152651.10434@DSI.COM>
Date: 7 Jan 90 15:26:51 GMT
References: <1150016@misty.boeing.com>
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
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jsadler@misty.boeing.com (Jim Sadler) writes:
>I recently, 1/2/89, received HP-UX 7.0 for my 825.  7.0 now comes with
>elm.  elm is a ("User Agent") replacement for mailx.  I currently use
>the version 2.2 [PL13] of elm from the elm development group.  When I 
>tried to run HP_UX elm I got the following:
[lines about errors in .elm/elmrc file deleted]

>I did a elm -v and got the following:

>Elm Version and Identification Information:

>	Elm $Revision: 64.9 $
>	(c) Copyright Hewlett-Packard Company, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989
>	(c) Copyright Yokogawa-Hewlett-Packard Ltd., 1988, 1989
>	----------------------------------
>	built Fri Sep  1 10:43:32 MDT 1989

>Anyone know what the "real" version number of the HP-UX elm is ?
This is Y-HP Elm and not Usenet Elm.  Back when Dave Taylor left HP,
Elm was split into two different paths, One by Y-HP, and one on Usenet.
The Y-HP people did not feel it worth it to incorporate our changes,
and we did not like how HP specific their changes were.  Also, at
the time they sent me their source, it was not working properly,
and I have not heard from them since.

Their version of Elm is based on Elm 2.0, with their own internal
changes.  I do not know what extensions, if any, they incorporated
from our 2.1 or 2.2.  I do know that their source will only work
on Sys V, and specifically HP-UX systems.  (Porting to other System
V should be easy, to BSD is very difficult).  There is not autoconfiguration
system in their version, it all has to be done by hand.

I suggest you decide if you wish to run their version, and throw ours
away, or run ours and throw theirs away.  I knew this was coming, but
there was little we could do about it.

>Is this why it won't read the .elmrc file ?
It doesn't know about the newer options in your elmrc file, in fact,
it will destroy yours and convert it to its, if you save a new copy.

I have no idea if the two versions will ever merge in the future.
They Y-HP version is developed in Japan by Y-HP, and I have had very
little contact from them, and frankly, most of it not very good.

Note, that the Y-HP version is only available for HP systems, of course.
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Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP                   Elm Coordinator
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