Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!vsi1!zorch!ardent!mips!cmic!garvey From: garvey@cmic.UUCP (Joe Garvey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: HP 3rd Party Software attitude Message-ID: <225@cmic.UUCP> Date: 11 Jan 90 02:24:28 GMT Organization: Califonia Microwave Inc., Sunnyvale, CA. Lines: 34 >>Anybody know the President of HPs' number? >> >>********************************************************************* >>Tony Burzio * Oh no, not again! >>Martin Marietta Labs * >>mmlai!burzio@uunet.uu.net * >>********************************************************************* >>---------- > >Boy do I sympathize. > > >jim sadler >206-234-9009 email uunet!bcstec!jsadler|root | hplabs!hpubvwa!b-mrda!jim HP's 3rd party support has caused me a great deal of grief too. HP seems to look at third parties as leaches (even if the products don't compete with HP). If you're a third party vendor... Sun will loan you a development system... HP (usually, in my experience) seems to want the 3rd party vendors to by (at retail) a development system. So Sun generates a larger volume (and more sales $$) while customers suffer with limited choices of software. Sigh. >>>>> Business Week lists ole Johnny Young's phone # as 415-857-1501. <<<<< I haven't tried it. Maybe I will after I try to renew my support contract for this year (HP changed the part numbers/descriptions/configuration, again). -- Joe Garvey UUCP: {apple,backbone}!versatc!mips!cmic!garvey California Microwave Internet: garvey%cmic@mips.com 990 Almanor Ave HP Desk: xxx ("mips!cmic!garvey")/hp1900/ux Sunnyvale, Ca, 94086 800-831-3104 (outside CA) 408-720-6439 (let it ring) 800-824-7814 (inside CA)