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From: rob@disk.UUCP (Rob Miracle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Now that the smoke had cleared (Honest Mac/IBM questions)
Message-ID: <987@disk.UUCP>
Date: 31 Dec 89 17:54:03 GMT
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In article <129727@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, acm@grendal.Sun.COM (Andrew MacRae) writes:
> In article <970@v7fs1.UUCP> mvp@v7fs1.UUCP (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
> >In article <1284@marlin.NOSC.MIL> jbjones@marlin.nosc.mil.UUCP (John B. Jones) writes:
> >>All this Mac/IBM blood-letting reminds me of a couple of questions I had
> >>about the Mac interface.  With a mac, how do you
> >
[Examples of DOS/Unix like things that Mac's can't do deleted]
> >
> >I don't think you can do *any* of these things on the Mac.  At least,
> >I've never found one, and the MacExperts I ask tend to respond along
> >the lines of "Why on earth would you ever want to ..." with the
> >implication that there's something intrinsigly Evil about desiring
> >Things That Users Are Not Supposed To Do.  I suspect that the fact that
> >you ask about them is a pretty good indication that you'll find the Mac
> >OS to be as frustrating and confining a strait-jacket as I do.
> >
> 
> You sound like the Scottish farmer asking the city dweller how many 
> bales of hay his Jaguar can carry, then not understanding why anyone
> would want a vehicle that can't carry hay.  The basic paradigms (don't
> you love that word?) of the two operating systems are so different
> it simply doesn't make sense to ask the questions you are asking.


First a couple of ACRONYM's:
  MENU : Moronic Entry for New Users
  ICON : Idiot Controllable Optical Nusience

There are two types of computer users out there.  Those who are programmer
types and those who arn't.  As a programmer, I can't stand the MAC interface.
As a user I love it.  The MAC is so limiting that it isnt funny.  Just try 
printing a postscript file to a laserwriter that came from the outside world
and wasn't created by a Mac "Application".  I cant redirect, write batch files
and other stuff with a Mac.  However the Mac was NOT designed for that.  It was
designed to bring computing to the non-computer literate.

For the staff out the art department at UofL who have never touched a computer
other than their canned CompuGraphic Typesetter, it was easy for them to use
a Mac where as they avoid the PC's like the plague.  I don't blame them.  The
Mac is visual.  It is easy to do things that you can visualize.  DOS/Unix/VMS/
CMS . . . require you to know computers.  You have to know commands.

It is a trade off that makes sense.  The entire world cant be computer hacks.
Geez, if everyone who uses a computer understood redirection and used it alot
then I would be out of a job. 

Each OS has its place.  Each OS is written to serve a particular audience.
If a user has to write programs/batch files to set the system up to where it
does the job that they need, then they do not have a system that is efficent
for them.  Programmers and such who create the applications for others need
the power to completely control the computer.

IMAO (In my arrogant opinion)
Rob
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