Xref: utzoo comp.sys.ibm.pc:41526 comp.sys.mac:45736 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!ncrlnk!wright!sdawalt From: sdawalt@wright.EDU (Shane Dawalt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Something else you can't do on the Mac Message-ID: <914@thor.wright.EDU> Date: 7 Jan 90 08:58:30 GMT References: <735@npiatl.UUCP> Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc Organization: Wright State University, Dayton OH, 45435 Lines: 47 I can't stand it anymore ... I just gotta voice my opinion before I explode! (This has been brewing for a week or so ... pardon the length.) Everyone keeps screaming how you always have to dump to DOS to "type" a file from a comm program. First, why would you want to download a file then read it while you are on-line? I presume you are on-line since you keep reiterating the point that you are unwilling to exit your comm program. If you do want to read the file in DOS, most comm programs allow you to shell up to DOS. You don't have to exit the comm program. Now I'll admit that I have found myself wanting to do _something_ while my modem is busy downloading/uploading stuff, but certainly not at a frequency which warrants a new machine purchase. Three of four times over a period of 2 years does not qualify as a "pressing need" in my case. Now, about the Mac; I agree with most people that IBMs are IBMs and Macs are Macs AND each machine is good for different problems. My personal feelings towards the Mac is that it is too "padded" for my liking. Mice (mouses, whatever) are dandy instruments to use. I have one on my AT system for use with GEM and, when I'm really desperate, Windows. The mouse, in my mind, is only good for, perhaps, 40% of total data input. Desktop publishing, filename selection from a list (not icons) and games are the extent of my mouse usage. Other times it sets collecting dust. Icons are fine if you prefer looking at drawings. I prefer text over drawing in most cases. I just find that I like a nice command line staring me in the face. (The command line should be part of the OS and, therefore, FREE. It was implied in earlier postings that to obtain a command line on the Mac required _buying_ a program.) In conclusion (if anyone is still reading), the Mac's screen is too small. My personal minimum is 13". My IBM system has a 14" which is "ok". I would much prefer a 19" because it appears to be more "roomy" on the screen. Perhaps the newer Mac's have larger screens. I do not know since I haven't been looking at them lately. One thing I would like is multi-tasking ability -- something the 80286 seems not to do all that well. :-( Yeah, yeah, I could purchase the new Windows upgrade, but Mickeysoft products are near the bottom of my reliability list (DOS included). (Do I dare claim this verbose message as my own???) Shane Email: sdawalt@cs.wright.edu or 71076.511@compuserve.com