Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!yale!husc6!m2c!umvlsi!dime!rjudy From: rjudy@cs.umass.edu (WHEELS GO ROUND) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: SIMM removal tool Message-ID: <8384@dime.cs.umass.edu> Date: 11 Jan 90 20:29:42 GMT Sender: news@dime.cs.umass.edu Organization: COINS, UMass, Amherst Lines: 52 In article <37675@apple.Apple.COM>, marc@Apple.COM (Mark Dawson) writes... >In article <50537@bbn.COM> levin@BBN.COM (Joel B Levin) writes: >>I've opened my SE twice, each time to replace two of the 256K SIMMs >>with 1M SIMMs. (The first time I had to figure out how.) >> >>I used my two thumbnails as gently as possible to spread the tabs just >>enough to lift the SIMMs forward. When reinserting the new SIMMs, I >>placed my thumbnails in the same place and slid the SIMMs down between >>them, so that the pressure from them pushed my thumbnails enough to >>open the tabs and let the SIMMs slide in. (I assume this makes some >>sense to anyone who has replaced SIMMs.) Was I inviting disaster this >>way, using no particular tool? >> > >Not necessarily--I just mentioned the SIMM removal tool because it reduces the >risk of breaking a SIMM socket (thus needing to replace the logic board--i.e. >$$) plus it makes removing them a lot faster. Before I started using a jeweler's screwdriver (sold in department store hardware departments, usually packaged in 5 different sizes), I did break a socket and managed to install the simm anyway; Jack in article 789 and Tim in article 776 also stated the ways they effected repairs after socket breakage. None of us needed to replace the whole mother board!? >I never did break a SIMM socket >using my fingernails (though I did go through a lot of fingernails). I saw >a post recently saying someone uses sometype of jewelers tool and claimed to >get the same kind of removal speed that I claimed the SIMM removal tool had ( >though I doubt it would reduce the breakage of sockets as well as the SIMM tool The jeweler's tool is a jeweler's screwdriver (just a small screwdriver), as mentioned above. No, I did not claim I got the same kind of removal speed as you. I never timed myself; I only stated that I can move right along when removing and installing simms without hitches or breaking any- thing. >You can save a lot of money, time, plus get a longer warantee by putting in >SIMMs yourself--BUT you risk breaking the SIMM socket. If you do this, you'll >need to replace the whole logic board, which will cost WAY more than the $$ you >saved by doing the replacement yourself. Again, it is not always necessary to replace the whole mother board if you break a simm socket. > The SIMM tool was designed to help >reduce this breakage problem and speeds up the removals to boot. I don't deny this, I just am pointing out that there are alternatives to the tool and that you won't necessarily break the socket if you don't use it and if you do break it, this doesn't ruin the whole mother board!