Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mailrus!ames!dftsrv!mimsy!chris From: chris@mimsy.umd.edu (Chris Torek) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: subscribe Message-ID: <21790@mimsy.umd.edu> Date: 12 Jan 90 16:08:42 GMT References: <22013@adm.BRL.MIL> <12831@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <821@edstip.EDS.COM> Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Lines: 56 In article <12831@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> subbarao@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kartik Subbarao) writes: > Is there a special mailing list associated with > comp.unix.questions? -- If so, subscribe me please Then, in article <821@edstip.EDS.COM>, ohrnb@edstip.EDS.COM (Erik Ohrnberger) follows up with: > Is there a special mailing list associated with > comp.unix.questions? -- If so, subscribe me please The `subscribe' and `unsubscribe' postings come from people who blindly believe that sending mail with such subjects will cause that effect magically to occur. In the immortal words of some mortal, `It Just Ain't So.' comp.unix.questions is `gatewayed' to Internet and BITNET mailing lists. Thus, there *is* a special mailing list. What appears on it is exactly what appears on comp.unix.questions. There is no point in reading it that way, when you can read it directly on USENET (with a much faster turnaround time as well). As long as I have this message going out, I may as well append another standard text: For those wishing to subscribe to any of the mailing lists on which this message is appearing, or for those who are already on such a mailing list and want to get off it, please do NOT send your requests to the mailing list itself. This sends the message on out to every reader of the list and across some gateway software to USENET; it thus reaches literally thousands of machines and merely serves to annoy everyone except those who have control of the mailing list itself. More importantly, in many cases the mailing list editor (person) does not read the list itself, and messages to the list are thus worse than useless. Please send requests to the -request form of the list. For instance, to get on or off the Unix-Wizards list, rather than sending a message to Unix-Wizards@brl.arpa, send it to Unix-Wizards-Request@brl.arpa. Remember that mail gets delayed and that people take vacations, and that mailing list maintenance is often a low priority project; it can easily take two or three weeks to get action on some request. Moreover, many lists have local redistribution points, to ease the load on mailers (using a mail system as a bulletin board has some drawbacks!). You should check for a local redistribution list first before sending mail to the -request address. Likewise, if you were added to a local redistribution list, asking the -request address to remove your name from the list is unlikely to be effective. BITNET mail is often handled through automatic mail servers located at specific BITNET redistribution points. Information as to which lists are located where, and how to use them, should be available from your BITNET administrator (I myself have no idea which, where, and how). -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163) Domain: chris@cs.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris