Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!bu.edu!bu-cs!xylogics!world!madd From: madd@world.std.com (jim frost) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Speeding up Sun 4 X? Keywords: Megabytes, memory hog Message-ID: <1990Jan4.022125.18804@world.std.com> Date: 4 Jan 90 02:21:25 GMT References: <33410@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <9001021710.AA11011@dart.cs.byu.edu> <50334@bbn.COM> Organization: Software Tool & Die Lines: 32 news@bbn.COM (News system owner ID) writes: >I expect the X servers from MIT to be a bit big, because they are >demonstrations of new ideas There are no new ideas in X (in fact it's missing quite a few fairly old ideas supported by other graphical environments) except, perhaps, that it's available to anyone for the asking. The OpenWindows environment, on the other hand, demonstrated quite a few interesting ideas. Given that the OW environment is extensible and that applications USE that extensibility, it's not surprising that the server grows quite large. In a comparable case, consider if X applications loaded much of themselves into the server instead of running as clients. Pretty soon the server would be quite large (and your ethernet would be much happier than it is with many X applications :-). This isn't to say that I don't think the OW environment could be better done, just that OW is much more novel than X. X is much better suited to a lean server environment and high network bandwidth (which is what we have now on LANs) while OW runs much better on lower bandwidth network connections but needs quite a bit of resources on the server. Which is best depends on your environment. Me, I like the OW idea but I like the fact that X is available for the effort of going and getting it. And since few people I know have a 12mb workstation at their desk.... That said, back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress. jim frost jimf@saber.com