Xref: utzoo comp.windows.news:1796 comp.windows.x:16370 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mailrus!iuvax!purdue!decwrl!shlump.nac.dec.com!riscy.dec.com!fuel.dec.com!graham From: graham@fuel.dec.com (kris graham) Newsgroups: comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Is SUN a "PURE PLAYER" in window systems - SunView or OpenWindows??? Message-ID: <1558@riscy.dec.com> Date: 4 Jan 90 19:05:10 GMT References: <13324@granite.BBN.COM> <8912302010.AA11723@super.super.org> <13323@diamond.BBN.COM> Sender: newsdaemon@riscy.dec.com Followup-To: comp.windows.news Lines: 44 In article <13324@granite.BBN.COM>, mlandau@bbn.com (Matt Landau) writes: > Now ask yourself what might happen if Sun were to donate the source to > X11/NeWS to the MIT X Consortium, just for the sake of promoting it as a > superior technology that wasn't under Sun's complete control anymore... > After all, Sun's done something similar with control of the Sparc processor > architecture... And AT&T is doing something vaguely similar with SvR4... > So ask yourself what might happen if X11R5 (or X12 or something) were > based on the merged NeWS/X server... Then ask yourself how we might make > this happen... I have heard a lot about the so-called "Technical Superiority" of NeWS. Anybody care to educate us non-believers of this claim. I have never thought of Postscript as a friendly language to program in.....or love a windowing system that makes the implementation of a print screen facility more tedious than necessary ; BTW: On a more cynical note, we all know the outcome of the "SPARC versus XXX" 'technical superiority" battle ;-) One of my co-workers, Larry Timmins, has been involved in multiple ports of applications originally done with Sun's toolkits. On average, for every six months (calendar time) that the customer/software house put into the project, only one month was needed with DECwindows' XUI toolkit. Using the Intrinsics -based toolkit reduces the network requests and ultimately has proven itself over and over. Regarding the donation of X11/NeWS, fine -- put it in the contrib like others have. However, when OSF went with the XUI toolkit, it was a fully tested production -quality toolkit at over 300 sites. What is needed is solid incremental contributions and not yet another toolkit, approach, etc. Christopher Graham Digital Equipment Corp Ultrix Resource Center New York City Internet: graham@fuel.enet.dec.com UUCP: ...!decwrl!fuel.enet.dec.com!graham I speak as an individual, not representing any organisation or company.